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North Carolina Constitutional Amendment One to
prohibit same-sex marriages (SSM), civil unions, etc.

Part 4: 2012: Public comments on Amendment
One.  Robo phone call by President Clinton.

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Comments from North Carolina voters:

A report by the WXII TV station discussed Rev. Franklin Graham's support for Amendment 1. 1 Some of the comments to this article may indicate the mood of the electorate. We have left grammatical and spelling errors intact:

  • BRJ: "I have a daughter that is a homo but I am agnist it and will be until I die because GOD is agnist it.

    • EG: "Does your daughters happiness matter to you?"

    • DO: "... because he doesn't like her lifestyle doesn't mean he doesn't love his daughter. God hates the sin, but still loves the sinner."

    • JD: "I think the fact he called her a "homo" means it's safe to say that he probably doesn't care about her happiness. Using it in the way he did is clearly a slur."

  • JC: "After reading several comments it becomes obvious that many have never seen the proposed North Carolina Constitutional Amendment for marriage. As Mr. Justice has addressed in an earlier post it is already illegal for gays and lesbians to marry in the State of North Carolina. Frankly I could care less about anyone’s sexual preference. I don’t understand or care to understand gay and lesbian life styles. It is your protected right to choose as you desire. Also you must remember I have the right to disagree. For me this amendment will be in place to protect taxpayer dollars. This amendment I hope may keep an attorney, a liberal non-profit legal organization as well as judge from testing the existing law and jamming the legal process for possibly years at our expense."

    • CS: "Well said, Brother."

    • DO: "simply put, an amendment is stronger than a law. It is put in place by the will of the people and not by the legislature. Isn't government supposed to be of the people, by the people and for the people? Or have we forgotten that principle? Also, I agree that people have the right to choose their individual lifestyles. But I'm a Christian and I have to follow principles as they are outlined in the Holy Scriptures. I come against behaviors but not against people. God hates the sin but still loves the sinner, regardless of what the sin is; there are no degrees of sin with a holy God."

  • DO: "I don't understand why this is news. I would expect him [Franklin Graham] to endorse this amendment, as should every Bible-believing Christian."

  • VF: "come on people iam sure youhave relatives friends that are gay stop eating each other like zombies you all do the same everyday go to churcg and hide and gossip. move on north carolina."

    • BRJ: "Vivian first you should learn how to spell."

  • JD: "Regardless of what Obama says, our founders stood on Christian principles. We need to get back to the basics."

    • DP: "We were not founded on christian principles........that is a myth.....the main thing our country was founded on was religious freedom......they felt so strong about it in fact it was written into our [federal] constitution."

    • KPT: "They may have held Christian principles but they didn't believe that religion should dictate or influence the law of the land, that is why they chose to form a Constitutional Republic and not a theocracy. People of faith are free to disapprove of same-sex marriage but they don't have the right to legislate how same-sex couples choose to live their lives."

    • DO: "KPT: whether we have the right or not, as people of faith in God we have an obligation to spread the teaching of the Bible. Because faith has disappeared so much from our country, our country is going to hell in a handbasket. One day we'll all stand before the Great Judge and be held accountable for what we've done."

    • KPT: "DO: No one says you can't spread the teaching of the Bible, what we are saying is that you can't use the government to do it for you. If you want to give your personal testimony to everyone you meet, that is fine by me, because they have a choice whether or not to listen and follow your example. But when you demand that the government use its authority to force people to adhere to your particular religious beliefs that's a different situation."

    • EKM: "Your Christian principles are being pushed down our throats, and some of us are tired of it. You already have tons of church property that pays no property taxes, huge buildings and buildings that are rented out. You get income from them but do you pay any property taxes on income producing property.........you don't. If you want a Christian theocracy take a look at Iran and see what a Muslim theocracy looks like. Do you want the US to be under that sort of rule?"

    • EKM: "DO: Faith disappearing is not the reason for the hand basket, it's idiots officials that lie to start wars. It's idiot officials that want to ignore the elderly, sick and hungry. Do they support Meals on Wheels, the food in the backpack program? Do they contribute to Second Harvest Food Bank? Do they support Free Clinics? They want to hurt our schools so they will have a population that is dumbed down and will follow like bleating sheep where ever they want to guide them. These idiots don't want people to think for themselves. Why else do they want an amendment that is so vague when we already have a law outlawing homosexual marriage??????

      It's people like Mitt [Romney] that wants to increase the military spending 4%, who the heck are we protecting ourselves from? The next war will be a computer virus, terrorists or bio-weapons. All the ships and plane and military equipment will do no good.

      You may think you are "to spread the teaching of the Bible" but I've been backed into a corner in front of Wal-Mart by a fanatical couple of 'christians'. I can't count the number of time people have wanted to come in my house to "have a prayer" or "share the word". Guess how many got in? (NONE)

      Christians need to get over themselves, those of us that don't believe are not impressed." 1

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2012-MAY-05: Former President Bill Clinton (D) recommends voting against Amendment One:

In his robo call, he says:

"Hello, this is President Bill Clinton. I’m calling to urge you to vote against Amendment One on Tuesday May 8. If it passes, it won’t change North Carolina’s law on marriage. What it will change is North Carolina’s ability to keep good businesses, attract new jobs, and attract and keep talented entrepreneurs. If it passes, your ability to keep those businesses, get those jobs, and get those talented entrepreneurs will be weakened. And losing even one job to Amendment One is too big of a risk. Its passage will also take away health insurance from children and could even take away domestic violence protections from women. So the real effect of the law is not to keep the traditional definition of marriage, you’ve already done that. The real effect of the law will be to hurt families and drive away jobs. North Carolina can do better. Again, this is Bill Clinton asking you to please vote against Amendment One. Thanks." 2

Unfortunately, he did not take the opportunity to explain clearly exactly what is the scope of Amendment One.

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References used:

The following information sources were used to prepare and update the above essay. The hyperlinks are not necessarily still active today.

  1. "Franklin Graham backing N.C. marriage amendment. Voters head to polls May 8," WXII, Undated, at: http://www.wxii12.com/
  2. Igor Volsky, "Bill Clinton Urges North Carolinians To Oppose Discriminatory Amendment," Think Progress, 2012-MAY-05, at: http://thinkprogress.org/

Copyright © 2012 by Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance
Originally written: 2012-APR-18
Latest update: 2012-MAY-09
Author: B.A. Robinson

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