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Same-sex marriages (SSM) & civil unions in Hawaii

2013-NOV-08 to 13:
Misc. comments on the Marriage equality bill SB1.
Bill is passed overwhelmingly by the Senate.
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Comments by the public concerning Bill SB1 and marriage equality:

Some readers of a Reuters article 1 posted comments:

  • One reader estimated that if and when both Illinois and Hawaii are added to the District of Columbia and to the previous 14 states who have legalized SSM, about 38% of the U.S. population will live in one of the seventeen jurisdictions where both same-sex and opposite-sex couples can marry.

  • Another reader predicted that New Mexico, Michigan, Oregon, and Nevada will be the next states to achieve marriage equality.

Readers of a Hawaii News Now article 2 posted many comments. Some of the most interesting were:

  • Anthony Nagano: "Onwards to the Senate! Equality shall triumph! :D"

  • Johnny Santiago: "And now Hawai'i will receive the same judgment as the cities of Gomorrah and Sodom. God's words will not be mocked. When he said Homosexuals will suffer in a lake of fire. He actually meant it no matter how many people try to twist the scriptures and claim that it's Hawaiian to be a mahu. So people of Hawaii please don't go crying when you see the chastisement on the Land from the hand of God himself." (The Hawaiian term "mahu" is derived from a Tahitian word that refers to transgender persons. That is a gender identity, and not a sexual orientation. However, in Hawaii, "mahu" is sometimes used to refer to anyone in the LGBT community.)

  • Sebastian Marc Raaphorst responded: "What a ridiculous load of malarkey. Look at the countries that have legalized same-sex marriage: they are amongst the most successful countries by every metric. Now look at the countries where homosexuality is demonized the most radically: they are generally amongst the worst third-world s--t holes.

    Seems to me like your (imaginary) god doesn't base his rewards and punishments on how people treat homosexuals -- or at least, he doesn't do so in the way that you think he does."

  • Sebastian Marc Raaphorst: "... The 'devout' have repeatedly called me a faggot, called for my death, told me that the marriage between me and my husband of almost 10 years is a disgusting farce. [They have told me] ... that we are incapable of actually feeling real love towards each other, and told that anything I misconstrue as love is actually nothing more than a shameful type of lust. I have been told that I am reprobate, sick, mentally ill, and that I deserve to die slowly and painfully of AIDS. If this has taught me anything, it's that Christian Evangelicalism is a destructive force for evil."

  • Soul Dancer: "If history is our teacher, 30 representatives receive an A for learning, 19 representatives receive an F for ignoring repeated lessons that cost lives!

    'Aloha mai no, aloha aku; o ka huhu ka mea e ola `ole ai.' (When love is given, love should be returned.)

    'Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves.' Abraham Lincoln."

  • Raven Bo: "I am personally against it but it is inevitable so, why not take advantage of passing it early and get little tourist money."

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2013-NOV-09: Senator Lee recommended that the Senate accept the House version of SB1 as amended:

Sen. Clayton Hee (D), chair of the Senate Judiciary and Labor Committee, has consulted about SB1 with the Senate president, the majority leader, and a staff lawyer. He recommend that the Democrats in the Senate accept the House's version of SB1 which includes three amendments, one of which expanded a religious exemption from human rights laws to facilitate more discrimination by religious believers.

He said:

"There are very few opportunities to participate in government in decisions that define your career. And this is one of those decisions that will define the careers of all of the members in the Legislature. ... I believe the vote on Tuesday will be 21-4 if everyone is there." 3

Senator Hee does not expect filibuster attempts or floor amendments to delay SB1's passage. He said:

"I have the status sheet and there were 29 amendments offered by the House. I would be very surprised if that were to occur in the Senate. That's simply not how we conduct ourselves." 4

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2013-NOV-12: The Hawaiian Senate passed SB1:

Most of the senators spoke in support of the bill. Some urged the public to come together and heal the divisions that have surfaced during the legislative battle. The Senate passed the marriage equality bill with a vote of 19 in favor, 4 opposed, with two Senators excused.

The final vote

The Senate vote: for/against/excused

Senator J. Kalani English (D) said:

"This is nothing more than the expansion of aloha in Hawaii."

Senator Sam Slom, the Senate's lone Republican, said:

"People have differences, and you can't legislate morality. You can try, but you can't do it."

After the vote, Governor Abercrombie (D) issued a statement saying:

"I look forward to signing this significant piece of legislation, which provides marriage equity and fully recognizes and protects religious freedoms.

He will sign the bill into law on NOV-13 at the Hawaii Convention Center at an invitation-only ceremony. 5

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References used:

The following information source was used to prepare and update the above essay. The hyperlink is not necessarily still active today.

  1. Treena Shapiro, "Gay marriage clears another statehouse hurdle in Hawaii," Reuters 2013-NOV-09, at: http://www.reuters.com/
  2. Mileka Lincoln, "Hawaii House lawmakers pass same-sex marriage bill," Hawaii News Now, 2013-NOV-08, at: http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/
  3. Oskar Garcia, "Key Hawaii senator: Gay marriage to easily pass," Yahoo News, 2013-NOV-09, at: http://news.yahoo.com/
  4. "Sen. Clayton Hee: 'A defining moment as an elected official'," KITV, 2013-NOV-10, at: http://www.kitv.com
  5. Oskar Garcia, "Hawaii Senate passes gay marriage bill," 2013-NOV-12, at: http://abcnews.go.com/

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Copyright © 2013 by Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance
Originally posted: 2012-NOV-08
Latest update: 2013-NOV-13
Author: B.A. Robinson

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